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demonstration of the fact that he holds that degree of power over me, that he can enforce his will on me, even if I were to resist. Since I find that thrilling and blissful, I don't feel much humiliated by it, no matter what somebody else may label it. But it also doesn't seem to me to have much to do with "nobility, intellect, achievement," and etc. Basically, it's about erotic domination.

It may well be that the man enjoys it much more if he admires me for all those other reasons; hopefully he would get a much bigger erotic thrill out of bringing a smart and assertive woman to her knees than he would from doing the same thing to another type of woman. But in that sense it would be the contrast between his admiration for her as a person, and the total power he holds to dominate and humble her, that would be erotic to both of them. I would not at all enjoy being dominated and/or "humbled" by a man who did not love and respect me. In fact, the very idea fills me with revulsion, and he could not dominate me psychologically at all in that case; not even if he's plenty strong enough to overpower me. What turns on my submission and makes him seem godlike in my eyes is his power to do that to me even though he loves me and respects me and realizes full well that I'm no pushover. There's no glory at all in "dominating" a woman who's a mere dishrag; only a man who can dominate a woman he deeply respects and admires seems truly dominant to me.

The desire to be humbled, I suspect, is in large part a wish to be used and enjoyed.

Well, I'd say they're related in that they are all submissive desires. That's the common thread running through it, in my view. But you seem to be reluctant to use the word "submissive" or even the word "dominant." So I'm unclear on just what your main orientation is here, with respect to Taken In Hand?

There is a certain fullness that some women enjoy in, shall we say, dealing with a little too much. Some of it may be an element of pride in taking it like a big girl (I can’t believe I ate the whole thing) but maybe more a kind of adorably sweet masochism